Digital Britain for Birmingham

First regional launch and debate for Digital Britain Final Report

17th June 2009


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Digital Britain in Birmingham

Lord Carter unveiled the long awaited Digital Britain final report at a regional launch in Birmingham on June 17th 2009. His speech was followed by a lively questions and answers sessions which gave regional experts their first opportunity to quiz Lord Carter directly on its recommendations. Deputy Leader of Birmingham City Council, Paul Tilsley, who set out a vision for a digital district in Birmingham and Iain Gray, Chief Executive of the Technology Strategy Board outlined his organisation’s role in supporting the implementation of Digital Britain through support for ‘digital test beds’.

I’d like to ask… yoosk?

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simonwhitehouse14:52: Staying Ahead of the Game panel session

This session, chaired by Tom Loosemoore of Channel 4, discussed “Staying Ahead of the Game”.

Considering that this was so late in the day, there were quite a number of people at the session and none of the lacklustre questioning that you sometimes hear towards the end of conferences.

Birmingham’s creative industry was a key topic in the discussion, and it was acknowledged that it is a great asset to Birmingham. Issues that cropped up were around educating graduates so that they have the skills that employers want; monetising content so that people can make a living from what they produce; developing, attracting and retaining talent; and mapping Birmingham’s creative industry so that it is clearer to everybody how strong it is.

To round off the session a member of the audience representing BusinessLink broke the encouraging news that there is support and money for emerging businesses — so everyone over to BusinessLink!

Here is a very patchy live-blog of what happened:

Tom Loosemore, Channel 4, introducing the panel.

Mary Matthews, Loose Games;

Nick Appleyard, TSB (not the old bank);

Lucy Hooberman, now Digital Media and Innovations Laboratory, Warwick University;

Dan Licari, Digital Media Cluster Manager, AWM;

Pam Waddell, Science City.

Mary Matthews: DB report is a useful, big snapshot of where we are now and what we need to address. It’s useful because it can be presented to decision-makers. But not so strong around people issues: as a games company, our business model has come from developing intellectual property around low-risk areas. Need a mind change around attitude to risk. Cultural development, as well as skills development, needs to be thrown into mix.

As a nation, we are great at innovation but not so great at exploiting it. The main gap is around bringing hubs of minds together. The free exchange of ideas between experts in different areas.

Some truth in the allegation that the report is a vision without a strategy. Innovation around business models is important. And we need to make money: free-to-use content is great, but in terms of employment and security of future for people who want to contribute to a whole, we need business models that can afford to pay people to be involved.

Nick Appleyard: Endorses pretty much everything that Mary said. Government and public service procurement requirements will drive sector; DB report points the way for that to happen. New services, new ways of tackling issues, enabled by infrastructure.

TSB’s ‘test bed’ idea came about because people needed somewhere to try out new business models in a controlled environment so they can gain confidence.

Lucy Hooberman: ‘Innovation industry’ has phases of different models. Now we are moving into a phase where the best R&D creative people can do is collaborative, which will happen with people from around the world. People will contribute freely, and worry about monetisation later down the line. So open models are very productive, even though they are threatening to some established organisations. The time for experimentation is now. Test beds will be very useful.

Really welcomes report, good to see sector being brought together. The job of government is to make environment better for people to invest; it’s up to the rest of us to take advantage of those opportunities and come together.

Dan Licari: Minimising risk for investors in infrastructure is important, e.g. through co-investing. Graduates need to be up-to-speed with modern developments, so universities need to work with industry to ensure that universities are delivering the skills that industry wants.

Changing business models in an important area.

Pam Waddell: A lot said about collaboration and ‘mashing of minds’. Science City has been around since 2005, but has only become prominent recently. Now it’s making large investment. SC has a strong knowledge economy focus.

There is a huge scope for cross-cutting initiatives, e.g. using technology to address environmental issues.

We haven’t heard a great deal in this session about creating new markets, and SC is working to do this by combining the power of the markets with the power of the public purse. E.g. working with Birmingham City University and hopefully University of Birmingham to create a digital hospital. That can then be taken out to national and international markets.

Question about semantic technologies, and surprise that it hadn’t been mentioned yet.

Talk about semantic technologies, how to make the web more customisable and tailored to what people want. People are guarded about disclosing personal information but becoming less so — which is why they put all their personal information all over the web on the likes of Facebook.

People tend to volunteer personal information when they can see there’s a real benefit for them in doing so.

Question about brain drain — how do we attract and retain talent? The question of fostering and retaining talent is being discussed at length, and Birmingham’s thriving creative industry is acknowledged. Having creative hubs and support mechanisms makes for community enterprises with clear business opportunities.

Lucy Hooberman — Birmingham’s social media scene and creative industries need to be ‘visualised’ in some easy to understand way; in other words, they under sell themselves.

BusinessLink — there is funding there, so people should go and talk to them!

Tom Loosemoore closes the session and thanks the panel and audience.

simonwhitehouse13:42: Infrastructure for a Digital Britain session

This panel session was chaired by Director of Digital Birmingham Chris Price (i.e. my boss!). Chris opened by asking the audience what messages they would like to communicate to the audience, adding that he would advocate using the public sector to aggregate demand for next generation broadband.

Encouragingly for anyone interested in digital inclusion, the session often crept towards discussion of social issues — skills, reaching the final third of people who don’t currently have access, and selling the importance of the internet (whether accessed through digital TV, mobile or even games consoles) — which really made it clear that technology is about enabling people to improve their lives and is a means to an end. This is in stark contrast to debates that centre on technology and ignore how it can be used to promote social inclusion, improve people’s lives and help the public sector deliver services better.

Issues raised included:

  • developing long-term business models that view next generation access as a utility, which would allow for longer pay-back periods on up-front investment
  • how to get around the ‘chicken and egg’ problem of developing business cases for infrastructure when the content to justify it can only be created when the infrastructure exists and likewise the demand for it
  • the commitment to a 2Mb universal service obligation
  • ‘fibre to the home’ (i.e. the provision of very high-speed connections to peoples homes and not just to the cabinets in their streets which are then connected by copper wires to houses)
  • the importance of a mix of technologies in achieving universal coverage — satellite, wireless, mobile and fibre-optic cabling
  • working together to ensure that individual cities don’t ‘reinvent the wheel’.

The patchy live blog for the event was:

Chris Price, of Digital Birmingham, introduces the session and invites the audience to think about the message that we collectively want to take to policy-makers.

Chris advocates the aggregation of demand in order to provide the next generation of digital infrastructure.

The rest of the panel members — Malcolm Corbett, Mike Biddle, Peter Cromar, Ian Wiebkin, Dorothy Smith and Steve Somerfield are now making their introductions.

Two things missing from report: no return path mandated; and no clear statement to say that they would support this type of service delivery.

Dorothy Smith — from BT

Malcolm Corbett — infrastructure is absolutely essential in the West Midlands for all applications, including business and community.

Steve Somerfield, Service Birmingham — delivering education, telecare, local government services require high bandwidth. Exciting area for Service Birmingham and Capita as a whole is the transformation of public sector services as a result of developing technology. Exciting times ahead, time to pull all of this together into one coherent whole.

Peter Cromar — this is not a technology issue but a socio-economic issue. In the City Region, we are looking at how we can aggregate demand and make business cases; encourage public investment and ensure that whatever buildings we invest in (e.g. Building Schools for the Future) are fibre enabled. Addressing the digital divide, working closely with AWM because they are looking to inputting into planning systems to ensure that new developments are fibre-enabled. The role of the private sector — SMEs and others — are important because awareness of ICT in the region is ‘not great’. ICT awareness seminars towards the end of the year.

Mike Biddle — Digital Britain offers a great opportunity to rally round and make progress. 2 issues: 2Mb issue and next generation issue. Don’t conflate two — they are two separate issues and it’s good that we are looking to ‘leapfrog’ and get as many people as possible on extremely high bandwidths. Chicken and egg situation that needs working out: how do we demonstrate that we need high bandwidth access when we need to have it in order to demonstrate it? It nevertheless requires some working out of what the content and applications would be. A mix of technologies — wireless, satellite, fibre — are essential.

Not just about bandwidth, but about quality of service: people don’t care about contention; they want a good service.

Ian Wiebkin: 2Mb access is great — still a large number of people don’t have access at all — but what about those who wouldn’t even have a connection if they could have it for free?

Self-excluded group tend to be older and don’t have a need to access technology — although once they use it, they love it.

Financially excluded find technologytoo expensive, or claim they don’t have ability to use technology.

These two groups are the hardest to reach; but a lot of them already have Sky, Virgin, phones, or games controllers that would allow them to connect to the internet. They can use familiar technology — e.g. remote control — that is unintimidating.It’s very difficult for us to put ourselves into the shoes of these people.

‘Looking Local’, the digital TV service, has 1.5 million users per month and was set up to reach people whom the internet could not always reach. They are searching for jobs, looking for social housing, and booking GP appointments. 75% of service users don’t have PCs.

The return path is essential.

Two things report was lacking: commitment to return path, and commitment to this type of technology (i.e. digiTV)

Q: Wondering about gatekeepers to current and future networks, e.g. BT Vision. Worried about use of BBC iPlayer, resulting in bottle-necking. Digital Britain infrastructure is all well and good, but what about up front policy management for people using the service?

A (Dorothy Smith): It’s up to ISPs to pay for bandwidth.

Q (Stephen Dodson, DC10 plus): The fundamental problem is that we’re talking about small, low bandwidth, issues. The rest of the conversation is really boring — conversation about a weak infrastructure. TSB looked towards a gig — or whatever — in 10 years time. The DB report looked at small steps, and BT and others look to accelerate that. Without infrastructure, we are still running BMWs on mud. It’s everybody’s responsibility to lobby for appropriate infrastructure so that we can take Britain to the next level. We, the public sector, want to deliver damn good services cheaply. Otherwise UK Plc will go down the pan!

Q (Michael Ryan): Pleased that DB is at white paper stage. Has nightmares about all the skills in place, but held back by bad infrastructure. As well as benefiting business, the creative and cultural sector brings in other sectors too because they know the infrastructure is there. Must be inclusive to ensure that everyone has access to knowledge.

A: We need business models to reflect how we use the internet, i.e. we should pay for the internet to reflect how we use it.

Malcolm Corbett: We need fibre to the home, not to the cabinet. Understandable that BT is rolling out fibre to the cabinet; but we need to future-proof infrastructure so that we don’t have to dig up the roads again in a couple of years. Must be treated as a utility, so it can be paid off over a longer period; and ensure community engagement in process.

Used the example of Alstom in Cumbria, with a housing density of 24 per square km; put in fibre to homes for 2.5k instead of 20k.

Dorothy Smith’s response: we don’t control the regulatory environment, and perhaps Ofcom’s remit should be revised. At the moment it’s all about open markets, liberalisation — a significant constraint on private sector and presents a challenge to some of Lord Carter’s recommendations.

Q (Adam Silvester, freelancer): Re. Alstom and local solutions. There have to be national answers as well as local solutions, because we are looking at very high numbers if we are getting 99% of people online and the nature of the workforce is changing.

Dr. Parker, Director of Addit: Aspect of competition not mentioned so far: between regions. Now it’s more economically viable than ever to regenerate city centres. Some cities are looking to upgrade quicker than Lord Carter advocates — which will result in a patchwork quilt of different levels of coverage.

A: That’s a healthy thing, with trailblazers showing the ways to others.

Q: What variables might turn digital inclusion into social inclusion beyond vague concept of empowerment?

A: Transforming public services, which builds demand and business case for infrastructure.

General agreement that the way to sell technology to people is about looking at application of it, not talking about technology.

Chris Price mentions Aston Pride project.

CP: Most people who have access to technology would fight to keep it, which illustrates what we’re doing to people who are denied access to it.

Dorothy Smith: Pleased that BT is serving on digital inclusion taskforce, working with digital inclusion champion.

Chris Price: So, what messages do we want to pass on to Lord Carter?

The ‘patchwork quilt’ means that we run the risk of reinventing the wheel, so it’s important to set something up to co-ordinate.

Dorothy Smith: It’s not as though nothing is happening in the market. Watch this space, announcements coming soon. Things are moving faster than implied by proposals in report, which are to reach margins of country that won’t be reached by commercial roll out.

IDTV: Rollout is a one-in-a-lifetime opportunity: backchannel essential.

Malcolm Corbett: Remove lack of bandwidth as a barrier to innovation.

Steven Somerfield: Procurement, and how smaller companies can play a part in overall service delivery model.

Peter Cromar: Recognising this as an economic issue, social issue, and not a technology issue. More we can work together in the region the better.

Chris Price thanks audience. Goodbye.

simonwhitehouse12:17: Transcript of live blog

Lord Carter has been presenting his Digital Britain report, hosted by Digital Birmingham in the ICC. The event is being broadcast live to the Fazeley studios, and you can watch it live on the Digital Birmingham website at http://www.digitalbirmingham.co.uk/news/watch-live-as-lord-carter-launches-digital-britatin-at-the-icc.

The event was kicked off by Cllr Paul Tilsley, Deputy Leader of Birmingham City Council, who announced a digital district for Birmingham.

Lord Carter delivered a comprehensive overview of the report, published yesterday, prompting speculation on what ‘local loop unbundling’ means. As well as infrastructure, Lord Carter spoke of the importance of reaching people who don’t have access to the internet either at home or at work.

Here’s a transcript of the live blog that is going on at the Birmingham Post website, which Simon Whitehouse from Digital Birmingham is contributing to (apologies for inconsistent formatting):

10:51
siwhitehouse:  Following Adrian we have deputy leader Paul Tilsley who chairs the Digital Birmingham partnership.
10:52
[Comment From Anna Blackaby]
Adrian Goldberg underlines the power of new technology as witnessed by the events in Iran
10:53
Anna Blackaby:  Lord Carter, the report’s author, is due to start speaking at five past eleven.
10:55
siwhitehouse:  Cllr Tilsley emphasises the importance of the creative digital sector in Birmingham.   The new Creative, Performing and digital Academy is due to open in 2011 and Birmingham is a designated “Science City”.   Mathew Boulton a national leader in digital technology studies.
10:56
Anna Blackaby:  Cllr Tilsley has just announced that Birmingham will create a ‘Digital District’ that brings together the innovative, learning and creative sectors enabled through a next generation hi speed broadband infrastructure.
10:56
Anna Blackaby:  He says this will span several hundred acres from Digbeth, Birmingham Science Park and Eastside, and will provide an exciting environment for creative industries and young entrepreneurs.
10:57
siwhitehouse:  The new digital district will provide a digital infrastructure that captures the ambitions of Digital Britain.
10:57
Anna Blackaby:  Cllr Tilsley said the digital district will act as a showcase and business demonstrator to attract new businesses and inward investment and offer a strategy for economic recovery.
11:00
siwhitehouse:  Cllr Tilsley enthusiastic of the prospects for Talk About Local and Help Me Investigate digital projects being funded by 4iP
11:03
Anna Blackaby:  Adrian Goldberg is just introducing Lord Carter
11:06
siwhitehouse:  Lord Carter is speaking with out notes for his keynote speech today
11:06
Anna Blackaby:  Lord Carter said he would keep it brief as he wants it to be more a Q and A session
11:07
[Comment From Andy_R]
Pirate Party UK responds to Digital Britain Report: http://pirateparty.org.uk/PR_PPUK_160609.pdf
11:07
siwhitehouse:  Primary aim of Digital Britain is to put the digtal and knowledge economy at the centre of the countiy’s economic and industrial policy
11:07
Anna Blackaby:  He believes the UK is uniquely placed to benefit from this
11:07
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
NGA cannot be delivered to 90% of uk land mass through obsolete copper technology
11:07
[Comment From @briannoonan]
http://www.rhubarbradio.com/listen/?v=95205c69-5356-444a-acb1-c03bc7480d75 courtesy of @cyberdoyle
11:08
siwhitehouse:  Where does Britain want to position itself for the next 5 – 7 years and what are the social and economic consequences of this
11:08
Anna Blackaby:  Secondly the report tries to analyse the infrastructure capabilities of the UK
11:08
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
government has a role to make bt use half empty ducts and get fibre out to rural areas
11:09
Twitter abbycorfan: oh dear sound gone at #dbuc09 just as Lord Carter started to explain why the digital britain report was important. Guess we won’t know now.
11:09
Twitter kasperbs: Another stream worth monitoring is #dbicc09 from the ICC where Lord Carter is now unveiling the report #dbuc09 http://ff.im/-44ZRj
11:09
siwhitehouse:  Emphasises the importance of extending the Universal Service Commitment but that it is a separate piece of work to Next Generation Access
11:09
Twitter exsanguinator: Streaming Lord Carters Digital Britain Report back, www.aquila-tv.com #dbuc09
11:09
Twitter aquilatv: RT @exsanguinator: Streaming Lord Carters Digital Britain Report back, www.aquila-tv.com #dbuc09
11:10
Anna Blackaby:  Network capability, reach and range are all more acute questions the further out you go from London
11:10
[Comment From Andy_R]
Mac compatible video stream here: http://events.digitalbirmingham.co.uk/digitalbritain/video/
11:10
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
the further you go from cities the less access you have
11:11
Anna Blackaby:  There will probably be a million homes that you will bring online using next generation capability
11:12
Anna Blackaby:  The clear analysis that we have seen that is there is virtue and value to individuals and businesses in seeing the deployment of new network capability
11:12
Anna Blackaby:  The market, analysis and international comparison tells us that if left to its own devices that deployment is unlikely to go beyound 60 -65 per cent of the country in geographical reach
11:13
Anna Blackaby:  That posess a very simple question – are we happy with that?
11:13
siwhitehouse:   Extending the network to the last third is a social question.
11:13
[Comment From Andy_R]
How much of Birmingham isn’t near a big city, exactly?
11:13
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
no we are not happy with 35% not getting NGA
11:14
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
well then government has to sort out duct access, not give in to the telcos
11:14
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
and wasting money on patching the copper to get to the 1.5 million homes is scandalous
11:14
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
stop the debate on copper, just get the fibre out there
11:14
[Comment From Katie]
where can we see Paul Tilsleys speech?
11:15
siwhitehouse:  The UK is not going to run roughshod over the regulatory framework which has developed around digital technologies
11:15
Anna Blackaby:  The consequence of that would reduce the competition benefits that have been built into the market
11:15
Anna Blackaby:  We as a government have decided it is not required to spend public money at the scale as other countries have done – for example in Australia
11:16
Anna Blackaby:  But if you talk to the Australian government part of the reason they are doing that is that they do not have the competitive market we have here in the UK
11:16
[Comment From Andy_R]
Agreed, fibre is the real issue. Copper by 2013 is a promise to give us yesterday’s technology tomorrow.
11:16
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
BT made billions of profit and not reinvested
11:16
Anna Blackaby:  We have proposed I think a relatively forensic and relatively proportionated levy – the so-called phone tax
11:16
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
our legacy copper is a white elephant, it is holding us back
11:16
siwhitehouse:  Indicates a limit of 7 years to the “phone tax”
11:17
Anna Blackaby:  You have to also have an equal passion for wireless networks
11:17
Steve Wollaston:  Apologies for the problems with the Live Streaming from the event…
11:18
siwhitehouse:  But there has been little if any analysis of the spectrum reworkings that are in the report.   This is there to give a route map to universal 3G coverage as well as priming 4G access
11:18
Anna Blackaby:  There is an unashamed portion of the report that seeks to address infrastructure but we equally try to look in detail and the content questions
11:19
Anna Blackaby:  The real flowering of 1,000 opportunities comes from having that capability off which you can see the development of services.
11:19
siwhitehouse:  Infrastructure is there for people to create new industries and opportunities.
11:20
[Comment From Andy_R]
whole report is pretty shameless :-)
11:20
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
all the digital britain report does is cover up a major fail in the infrastructure
11:20
Anna Blackaby:  We believe there was a case for keepign CHannel 4 in public ownership but expand the role of Channel 4 to be a driving force for innovation
11:20
[Comment From Katie]
Isn’t Digbeth already the creative sector of Birmingham?
11:20
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
the content and applications and services won’t be delivered to 90% of uk land mass
11:20
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
47 hours to download open office via 3g in most areas round here
11:20
siwhitehouse:  C4 to be a driving force for innovation in the digital content market
11:21
Anna Blackaby:  We lay out clearly a regime change for radio and we make a proposal about the future of the BBC licence fee
11:21
Anna Blackaby:  We do not believe in annual settlements but we beleive maintaining the BBC in a government structure that is impartial
11:22
Anna Blackaby:  We identify a gap in news in the regions that we need to guarantee
11:22
Anna Blackaby:  We have already have fantastic contributions to local news but these are not guaranteed to be there. If a shareholder or owner decides not to publish that site or newspaper, they disappear
11:22
siwhitehouse:  BBC licence fee to remain a hypothecated tax but that there is a News gap in the Nations and the regions which should be guaranteed and that may not be necessarily delivered by the BBC
11:23
Anna Blackaby:  The point we make is that we don’t want a situation that the monopoly guaranteed provider on any platform was the BBC
11:23
Anna Blackaby:  If you take that view you have to find a funding mechanism so we recommend you take a portion of the licence fee
11:23
Anna Blackaby:  We make very clear recommendations on how that portion of the licence fee can be shared
11:23
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
the tv companies are big enough to sort out their own problems, government job is to sort out the Next gen access
11:24
Anna Blackaby:  The reason why we we wish to take people’s view is that we recognise that that is a subject of public debate
11:24
siwhitehouse:  This is not death by a thousand cuts as it explicitly states in the report that any further slicing of the BBC licence fee needs Parliamentary approval
11:24
Anna Blackaby:  Finally the report starts with one thing and finishes with another. It starts with a central question around participation
11:25
siwhitehouse:  Digital engagement and digital smarts has to be a part of the Skills Programme, core to Home Access Programme
11:26
Anna Blackaby:  Asks the audience how many people have an internet connection at home – 100 per cent
11:26
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
if you want people to digitally participate the essential step is to get universal next gen access to all the people, not just those who live in cities
11:26
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
copyright and all that stuff, nothing to do with government, the rules are outdated and will sort themselves out.
11:26
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
wait for it, pirates will be next
11:26
Anna Blackaby:  Asks whether they have it at work – almost 100 per cent
11:26
siwhitehouse:  Access at work is an indicator of whether people have Internet access at home.   This is deepening the “Digital Divide”
11:26
Anna Blackaby:  But says there is a portion of society that doesn’t have that connection and that gap is growing every day.
11:27
siwhitehouse:  and that portion of society most likely to use public services
11:27
Anna Blackaby:  The bit we finish with in the report is what does it al m ean for government – what it means for procurement and delivery processes
11:27
Anna Blackaby:  We talk about what it means for the way the government itself conducts its business
11:27
siwhitehouse:  Digital Switchover is about moving services online and procurement
11:28
Anna Blackaby:  Those two pillars which start and finish the report – increasing participation and using the power of government to drive that are deliberately the two bookends of the report
11:29
siwhitehouse:  There are limits to the report and the questions which it asks
11:29
:  Within a year we have sought to address as many questions as we can and give a programme of delivery

Anna Blackaby:  Some people have suggested the consultations are a symptom of rampant indecisions but we are required to consult to change primary legislation.

11:30
siwhitehouse:  changes to primary legislation needs to follow due process
11:31
siwhitehouse:  It is important to have a Digital Birmingham. We need to have regions knowing how to push digital opportunities that are available to them
11:31
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
it is important for rural areas to have a decent connection
11:31
Anna Blackaby:  I believe technology takes down heirarchy and allows people to take decisions about their lives
11:31
Anna Blackaby:  We have to recognise that there are signficant international issues – much of the framework for the rules is decided by Europe
11:32
Anna Blackaby:  And increasingly many of these issues are decided internationally not least rights and patents
11:32
[Comment From Andy_R]
He claims to be liberal and progressive, but he tows the old content monopoly line 100%?
11:32
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
he speaks well, but hasn’t addressed the issue of the areas outside cities
11:33
Anna Blackaby:  Many people believe that the British make outsanding laws and are very good at public administration and by and large we are – adds you would be forgiven for forgetting that
11:33
Anna Blackaby:  This will inform the debate about how piracy is addressed
11:33
siwhitehouse:  Britain can inform the debate around Intellectual Property Rights and piracy
11:34
Anna Blackaby:  For the British government not to take a view on that would send a signal around the world
11:34
siwhitehouse:  The debate around IP is a subtle and nuanced one which this report does not seek to end, it must be an ongoing one
11:35
siwhitehouse:  and the speech is over. Q&As next

Now it’s Q&A time:

siwhitehouse:  What is the role for providers of alternative services in Next Gen Access and can they bid for the levy money?

11:40
siwhitehouse:  Carter: The Network Design and Procurement Group will run the fund for NGA.   Unconnected homes should go to NGA asap where possible, not just a move to 2Mb. The Digital Britain report does not state who would be eligible to bid for NGA funding, deliberately.   We can imagine consortia bidding for NGA funding
11:40
siwhitehouse:  Q.   BT is a tethered giant.   Will it be unleashed?

siwhitehouse:  Carter:   BT have made significant announcement about upgrades on their network.   This report is announcing items that will accelerate competition and that will spur BT.   This was the case with Local Loop Unbundling.   We set a target for 3.5 million lines unbundled and we beat that target by 2 years.

There will be an accelerating effect upon infrastructure build out

11:46
siwhitehouse:  Q. Mary Matthews, games industry: Pleased with level of recognition in report. Want is the thinking about tax breaks for “culturally British” products.   Will that be   alimiting factor?

11:49
siwhitehouse:  Carter: Tom Loosemore from C4 described the report as having good nuggets.   This is one of those nuggets. We were seeking to give a “ringing endorsement” of the video games industry and put it on an equal footing with other creative digital industries.Carter’s advice to the video games industry s to run “very, very hard” with the culturally British ball

11:49
siwhitehouse:  Q. Zulfiqur Khan from community radio. Finding it very difficult to compete
11:50
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
Video games can’t work in rural areas on 2meg connection, so 90% of uk land mass won’t be able to join in
11:51
siwhitehouse:  Carter: As you create a national DAB and then local DAB layer it creates a space for “Community Radio Plus” on the FM band and so the report is “unashamadely good news” for community radio
11:52
siwhitehouse:  Q. Will Perrin: Talk About Local: Thank you for recognition of TAL.   Report is about top down regulation. Is there a role for hyperlocal in the new news consortia envisaged by report?
11:52
[Comment From cyberdoyle]
i have run a community website since 2000, but most people round here can’t contribute photos and stuff to it cos they are on dialup
11:55
siwhitehouse:  Carter: Don’t think that the report deals from a top down regulatory approach. This should be “manna from heaven” for the sort of participatory services that you talk about, making them more widely used and more powerful.The report does not say that ITV will get some of the BBC licence fee, but that consortia will be able to bid for these Contestable funds.

Re-emphasises that this is not a top-down report.

11:56
[Comment From HF]
Cyberdoyle – local communities have been laying their own fibre and running their own networks for some time. The problem is they are ghettos – the big ISPs (remember there are only 5 real players) wont work with them because it is expensive to deal with small networks and manage exceptions. So the residents are forced into an ISP monopoly, a local monopoly sure, but excluded from competition.
11:56
siwhitehouse:  Q. Lucy Hooberman. Independently Financed News Consortia: wrt the 3 pilots, there will be one in the English regions.   How ill they be chosen? If you use incumbents to choose new players then it can make it difficult for new companies to come through.
11:57
Twitter jonhickman: I love the whole giving FM to community radio thing, but still unsure that the DAB switch for national radio needs more thought #dbICC09
11:59
Twitter gabysslave: RT @jonhickman: I love whole giving FM to comm radio thing,but still unsure that the DAB switch 4 national radio needs more thought #dbICC09
11:59
siwhitehouse:  Carter: A good point. The Gov should set aside some procurement rules in order to address this point and the mitigation of innovation that can result.   We also talk about the hard investment through for eg the Technology Strategy Board, which can be a voice for SMEs.   They are the part of Gov “that likes to say YES”
11:59
Twitter jonbounds: #dbICC09 Ld Carter: “investment in Tech Strategy Board is investment in innovation – route in is to talk to these” & keep shouting
12:01

siwhitehouse:  Q. Lin Glover – City TV: We are getting slightly mixed messages from the regulators. Where do us small guys fit in?

12:03

siwhitehouse:  What we put in the final report was a marker that we think small local TV has a future but we did not find that this became a focus for many in our consultations.

When we talk about consortia do not assume that this is necessarily consortia of large companies, they can be SMEs equally well

12:04

siwhitehouse:  Q. Are you supportive of the Cave(sp?) Audit on spectrum liberalisation?

12:05

siwhitehouse:  Carter. Yes

12:07
siwhitehouse:  Q. Helen Milner – UK Online: Disappointed by superficial media reporting. People have said that they would be happy to pay a £6 tax to get everybody online. 15million people offline: how will the consortia work and what does good look like?
12:08
Anna Blackaby:  Have gone quiet as I try to get my own question in to Lord Carter on what this report means for those businesses outside the “digital media” sector such as the West Midland manufacturing sector – no luck yet
12:12
Anna Blackaby:  Ok, that’s all from Lord Carter – we’re going to say goodbye now. Thanks for following the live blog
12:12
siwhitehouse:  and it’s goodbye from me also

simonwhitehouse14:34: Cllr Paul Tilsley

Cllr Tilsley emphasises the importance of the creative digital sector in Birmingham. The new Creative, Performing and digital Academy is due to open in 2011 and Birmingham is a designated “Science City”

Cllr Tilsley has just announced that Birmingham will create a ‘Digital District’ that brings together the innovative, learning and creative sectors enabled through a next generation hi speed broadband infrastructure.

He says this will span several hundred acres from Digbeth, Birmingham Science Park and Eastside, and will provide an exciting environment for creative industries and young entrepreneurs.

Cllr Tilsley said the digital district will act as a showcase and business demonstrator to attract new businesses and inward investment and offer a strategy for economic recovery.

Cllr Tilsley enthusiastic of the prospects for Talk About Local and Help Me Investigate digital projects being funded by 4iP

simonwhitehouse15:42: Fully booked

The main event for the Digital Britain regional launch and debate is now closed   But, there are still spaces available at the official unconference event down at Fazeley Studios where Lord Carter will also be attending for a question and answer session.

Nicola Bryant11:32: Countdown to regional launch

I’m now in countdown mode as we approach the big day of our regional Digital Britain debate of the final report and frantically going through the check list of everything that I still need to do. The truth is, there are simply not enough hours in the day to match the to do list that keeps growing before me. While I reflect on this I wonder how the BIS team are getting on with the final report – perhaps they too are frantically pouring over a redraft of a redraft – that makes me feel a little better!

We now have a packed house for the ICC event full of cross sector representatives and I hear the official unconference event is filling up quickly too. It’s been great working with our partners across the city on this event and their support in bringing together such a great round-up of panellists for the afternoon debates and the official fringe has been invaluable.